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Bokke8 over o.a. zijn jeugd, motivatie, en geïnspireerd worden door Lil Durk | NEW VIBES ONLY

October 15, 2023 Mario Brouwer
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In deze aflevering van NEW VIBES ONLY praten we met Bokke8 over zijn EP “SWART”. 🎵

Wil je weten waarom Bokke8 Fake Love gevaarlijk vindt ? ⛔
Waarom hij een probleem kind was en welke artiesten hem inspireren? 👁️‍🗨️
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Tijdcodes:

00:35 Waarom heeft Bokke8 zijn EP Swart genoemd? 
00:52 Waar haalt Bokke8 zijn motivatie en doorzettingsvermogen vandaan?
02:51 Waarom vindt Bokke8 Fake Love gevaarlijk?
03:58 Uit welke buurt komt Bokke8 en hoe vond hij het om daar op te groeien?
05:48 Wat zijn de dingen die Bokke8 vroeger deed waardoor hij dacht een probleem kind te zijn?
07:35 Hoe zorgt Bokke8 ervoor niet beïnvloed te worden door de mensen om hem heen?
08:36 Welke artiesten hebben Bokke8 geïnspireerd?
10:07 Waarom heeft Bokke8 geen featurings op dit project?
11:34 Hoe is Bokke8 ermee om gegaan toen hij het een tijdje financieel slecht had?
13:52 Wat is het moment geweest dat Bokke8 ging beseffen dat hij hardhorend was en daar iets mee is gaan doen? 
15:37 Wat voor advies heeft Bokke8 voor iemand die op dit moment hardhorend is?
16:42 Hoe gaat Bokke8 ermee om wanneer mensen zijn visie niet begrijpen?

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to New Fibes. Only Today I'm with Bocke 8 and we're going to talk about his EP Zwart.

Speaker 2:

I can tell you're in love with him.

Speaker 1:

Bocke, you brought an EP called Zwart with the S Right. I think you also called it your back. Why did you name your EP like that?

Speaker 3:

It was a darker vibe. My EP album. I named it Zwart with the S, so I put the link down.

Speaker 1:

In the intro you start with your struggles, your frustrations, but in that you also say I'm going to make it. Where did you get the opportunity from?

Speaker 3:

I just have my struggles, but I always had the confidence to let it go. When I started with music, I stopped at school. I was going to choose music for the whole time and that's what I focused on. I always believe in myself, but if you want something, you can achieve it.

Speaker 1:

What was the moment? You thought you were going to take rap seriously and just hit it?

Speaker 3:

It just started as a joke. In the studio with Matias, I was just doing my thing, I was just progressing. A friend of mine made the beats and he went to Belgium the Arpschreiferskamp. I thought it was interesting and then he came back so I said I want to go with him. I went to Belgium, I locked myself up there on weekends, I made tunes and then I thought this is it. I had never been able to continue. When I was playing football, I stopped at a station, I stopped at a kickbox for a year. I just liked music. So I thought this is my thing.

Speaker 1:

Fake love is dangerous. Why is it dangerous, according to you?

Speaker 3:

Because you can't recognize it right away. Sometimes I recognize it right away. It can also be that it lasts long. I've been with friends who are no longer my friends. That's just fake love. It's dangerous.

Speaker 1:

So there are situations that you can face yourself. Yes, for sure, often.

Speaker 3:

Fortunately, I often enjoy it because I always have a ring with a small group, but there are a few people who don't sit in between.

Speaker 1:

Yes, your circles have become a little smaller over time. Sometimes it's always necessary, certainly necessary. In that track you also say first of all, family, the hood. What is the reason why it's so important for you? Because often rappers want to set themselves up first and then they're really good. They say, okay, I did this for my mother or that, but you're saying it now.

Speaker 3:

My mother always took care of me. My mother still takes care of me. So if I can do something, it's that she just takes care of me. And if I can find a place where we've always been I live my whole life in Amsterdam-Nord I'd like to stay there, but if I can find a nice house, I'd like to do that- Exactly.

Speaker 1:

How did you grow up in Amsterdam?

Speaker 3:

I moved once. I first lived in New-Dame near Waterlandplein and then there were all the big flats and it was completely different now. But I always had it all in my mind. You know, outside there were many young people. I had to take it out of the house. Eventually I moved. Now I live in New-Dame, but in another place. Here it's very quiet, where people meet each other, and I live there in peace.

Speaker 1:

What are the things that make Amsterdam-Nord so typical? What are those things that you say like, hey, I said that once in a row.

Speaker 3:

But Amsterdam-Nord has a lot of Tokis Do you get it? Just real Amsterdamers, and I feel that, honestly, I live near Holland, but only Dutch people there. Dutch people, dutch people, yeah, I really like it.

Speaker 2:

I'm honest. I don't want you to be happy, bro. Hard work is dead normal In the time. You're dead normal. Don't think about her, but who's the one who's taking care of her? You don't care about shit. You don't care about shit. You don't care about your shit, okay, but what if she comes with a brand new pay? It's click, click, boom.

Speaker 1:

I also have the chance to do shit, but I'm not planning to do shit, then you're planning to do shit and just leave your plan for a bitch. In your track problem you write down how easy it is for you To get into the problems you're in, and you also talked about having a problem with your old job. What were the things that made you a problem?

Speaker 3:

I started at the elementary school. At the elementary school I was with a certain group of guys and we just went, yeah, do a lot of things, throwing chairs, fighting with guys, and eventually I went to the middle school the other day. It didn't go well. I was only sent out there the first year. I think I was sent out 70-80 times or so. Then I went over to the second, from the second I went over to the third and that year I was also sent out of school Because I had fights and I just I've always been there for aggressive courses. I was just a very difficult guy and I think I just became a teacher in a short time and now it's completely different. Now I'm just calm.

Speaker 1:

Because of what you were? Was it the influence you had from others?

Speaker 3:

I think more it is. I have, of course, made certain things. Everyone has made their own things, and at school you will see quickly who is kind of self-person, and then you will surround yourself with it and then you will only stick together To do more, and I think it's so amazing.

Speaker 1:

Yes, exactly because you also have a line where you say I am surrounded by dealers and shooters, but yes, those are people who can bring you to a whole different path, because you may want to, but how do you keep your own path?

Speaker 3:

To say it's not good to be on the same team as them. To say it's better to choose something else. To use my own healthy understanding, I know I have talent and I can achieve that.

Speaker 2:

I can't complain. It's always better. The big money is almost certain. The guy next to me is smart but you think he's crazy. He's coming on the ride. See a girl on my snap. She knows how to skate, but she can barely know me. I'm active but I'm going to quit.

Speaker 1:

Tell me where you are if I'm in my location Like Afwezig is my favorite tune on the project the beat and the combination of how you work on it. It's super hard. What inspired you? You have a different sound than what is now. Thanks, how did you get inspired to go that way?

Speaker 3:

America. I always listened to English music first. I always thought that was hard. I think what you listen to inspires you automatically.

Speaker 1:

I always listened to English music.

Speaker 3:

First. At some point I only listened to American artists and then I thought this is it. I used to listen to Chief Keefe and Lil Durk, but then that music was different, especially Lil Durk when it was just a trio. I used to listen to him and then I realized that his whole emotions changed, but I still feel him. I think that's super hard. Lil Durk inspired me to do this. Then I went on to watch Lil DJ. I listened to E-book you know what I mean, and that's the people I get inspired by. I listen to them a lot. Some people hate me. They call me AliExpress Lil DJ. I can only see that as a compliment.

Speaker 1:

I feel it too, so you keep going with that sound.

Speaker 3:

And you keep going.

Speaker 1:

What we noticed is that you don't have any future in this EP. What's the reason?

Speaker 3:

I'm going to be honest with you. I already put an EP on it. Some people were checked for it and then everyone said something. I can't say everyone. An officer jumped on it and it was just a boy's life, but there are people who just let me go for what it is. So with my new EP I thought first I just put people on it. I just put people on it.

Speaker 1:

I kept everyone off it.

Speaker 3:

I just put them on their own. I wanted to introduce that sound and I just wanted to do it myself, Not with other people but with my tunes so that I can listen to it. I think it's a kind of statement.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it works. It's not that I'm missing a future.

Speaker 2:

You just fill everything up perfectly.

Speaker 1:

I'm from a flat bro, you walk with snakes and I put my tie on like a candle In my eyes.

Speaker 2:

You fire. I'm really angry Because they don't come near me because I have smoke. I said come near me because I have smoke. I want to go away because I was standing on the red. I don't wear a bitch, I only have a cash. Then I'm broke. The gold records with my bitches are gold diggers. I don't want anything now. We are all bitches. My bro said fuck this, I'm going to rap. Let the street go.

Speaker 1:

In your track Dead Broke. Do you have a time when it just went a little less financially? How did you deal with it?

Speaker 3:

That's why I came here, because I didn't focus on music. I didn't have any work. I went to school. So that's the problem. I was just sleeping in the studio. I just stayed in the studio making tunes every day. The studio was at my grandma's house. As I said before, my grandma just cooked for me. I have a very close friend group the boys. I have a lover. They all helped me through that time. If I didn't have something, if I wanted something, it was just arranged. That's why I would always check the boys when I can miss them.

Speaker 1:

What were the things from those times that you think back now and that you think shit. I never want to make that up again, bro, that sounds so sad, you know.

Speaker 2:

I get it.

Speaker 3:

For example, in my first few clips I just changed my path from other people. Yeah, you know right? Yeah, now it's changed, luckily. It's just like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And uh, yeah, what else? I just have things. You know, people just helped me with my shit because I had to fix it. Yeah, I went for a while, for example yeah, I can't really say what I was going to do, but I needed a car, and then Mati just bought me a car. You know, he just said look, just move. Yeah, exactly that kind of thing. I'll never forget that man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's good to keep that to itself. Yeah, the reason why I ask is that people will watch now and they think, yeah, I don't have it now. But they do know that they can get it out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for sure, man. You always have to look up man Post-for-Hard.

Speaker 2:

I didn't get anything and I've lost so much. And what's love? Only pooters. I've got all over my ears. Fuck with myself in a fight. I'm a fight born. Sometimes I live behind the front, but I always look forward. My G-sepass is never frozen, so the strip is slid. We started from naked bikers to different whips. I only want your bitch. Who's just different. I'm with a different gang. I'm with a different clique.

Speaker 1:

In your hard-to-hear track you just have something about a time when nobody wanted to hear you. You didn't want to take it, you hoped it was hot as they say. Yeah, man, but how did that come about?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was the time when my head didn't work, man. I just did my thing and what I said. I was aggressive and everything, and everyone was looking at me, but I just let it go. I'm serious, I did that and I just listened to nobody. I just kept doing my thing. And to make that happen with the adults, at some point you just realized that shit is all unnecessary. You can just be normal and, when it's necessary, activate it, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's it, man, and I think when you listen to a guy, nobody People say it's important to me. I thought I'm young, now nobody can judge what I'm doing now through my lifetime. I thought I'm going to do it later, but no, what you do then is your future, you know. Yeah, right, I just didn't realize that, man, I'm telling you the whole time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, indeed, there are often people who think in their lifetime that I would have done that when I was young or that I would have done this. But it's always looking back of course Right.

Speaker 3:

It's all about how you get it back right. I'm going to school again soon.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you already know what you're going to do.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, herman Brod, when I'm taken, you're already taken. I don't have any expectations, bro. That's the theory, do you understand? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

No, but I think Herman Brod has just put his music on and references and then you come to me that's my truth.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, we're just going to hope.

Speaker 1:

But what advice would you give to kids who are just listening to you right now?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's really hard, man, Because to me everyone has family instances. Everyone has tried to make me do things, but at that moment you just don't want to listen. It always sounds like, yeah, those parents always say that and they're lying. But now I just realize it's really like that. If someone talks to you like that, just listen. Now when I talk to people, I really listen carefully and think about those things right away. And that's it, man. Someone only has a good intention when they say to you what you can do better.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this waggy, brand new show. She's wearing that. I've been in a corner for nothing, but now she's playing her own. I've slept there for days, no dreams but chasing Some people don't feel me, but I've got sides to your mind. I don't even care about your laughter, so maybe I'll be your face. I'm the same age as you. I'm going to love Beijing. I don't give a shit. I want something back. I see that shit as a lane. It's time to shine, because all these days were training, the last track own Kaya or own Wag.

Speaker 1:

You're not understanding your vision, but you're still going through it. How difficult is that? I've made that up myself. I wanted to do something and people were going to judge me. What are you doing with it? And then they just say now I see you, can you help me with the same thing? How did that work for you?

Speaker 3:

The same as you. People don't believe in you because it works. Maybe it's not crazy If someone says to me I'm going to be an artist and you haven't done anything yet, I would think you know what I'm saying. Of course I would support you, but if someone does something different than others, I understand that you're going to think you know it's not going to work. And then when is it going to be? I understand it on the one hand, but it's difficult, you know. I just realized that even my mother because I quit school, so my mother also always said that music is nothing. You know, at some point when I was going to make a movie before I signed, she saw it. Okay, you're really working on it. You'd rather do something serious than be busy with nothing. So then she was just behind me and now she's my biggest fan.

Speaker 1:

That's all right, so you can keep walking your own path.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I know for sure. Just do my own thing. Look at no one. Look at myself.

Speaker 1:

Yes, man, just about walking your own path. What's next?

Speaker 3:

The album is on the way, man. I said it a few times and this is going to be. Ep was so hard I say it myself but this is going to be something different, man, and I think I'm just going to let something happen.

Speaker 2:

I'm curious, nice man.

Speaker 1:

The guitars in between are really nice, yes, and a new one?

Speaker 3:

Yes, man.

Speaker 1:

Nice good track. Love man bro. So this is going to be the first single.

Speaker 3:

Yes, man.

Speaker 1:

Or are you going to keep playing?

Speaker 3:

for that we're doing, probably the intro probably Okay dope man, we talked about black.

Speaker 1:

we heard a new tune. We're going to keep going, you know you're doing great and for the people who are watching, check out black and keep on playing.

Speaker 3:

Go stream that. Go stream that. I'm going to be very busy. Thanks, man.

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